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Jun. 30th, 2007 10:39 pm
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I'm not going to admit I'm crying even though I am but I will admit to thinking: "WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST WATCH?"



Dear RTD,

I know you agree with my icon here, and that's a good way for Martha to go, but THE FUCK? WHY DID YOU HAVE TO TAKE HER AWAY FROM ME?

No Martha in the Christmas special, which is gonna be something (the special I mean), I know, and from what I've heard, some Martha in S4?




I loathe myself at the moment for thinking this, but I have absolutely no desire to watch any more new Doctor Who, later this year and next.

Maybe that'll change, knowing me, it will. But could this be the end of DW for me?

But when the fact that Martha leaving the Doctor on good terms breaks my heart more than ANYthing else in the entire episode, and season, and even a little more than the Doctor and Rose's departure? That should...mean something. *mumbles to self*

Sadly, Megan



Anyway, Jack=Face of Boe? WOW. Was that a spoiler floating around or were people really just guessing or grasping at straws when they said that for the past year or so? That was insane, truly.

OH MARTHA.

And OH MARTHA'S MOM. I sort of wanted her to shoot the Master. Was a bit surprised that he was shot at all, but after seeing Lucy chanting "Doctor" with them all, wasn't surprised it was her. And was that a black eye I saw on her early in the episode?


I know I have more to say, but I'd feel better if I went and curled up in the corner for now. Not to mention I should nurse the cold I've caught.

And then I'll watch some S2 episodes of The Office.

Date: 2007-07-01 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
I loathe myself at the moment for thinking this, but I have absolutely no desire to watch any more new Doctor Who, later this year and next.

Maybe that'll change, knowing me, it will. But could this be the end of DW for me?


I said almost exactly that same thing. But since Jack is now wrapped up (except for the freakin' TWO YEARS missing from his memory!), I have no characters left I'm really invested in. Oh, well, the upside is my Jack-was-fighting-the-Time-War with Eight/Nine story is still un-RTDd.

When Ten became God, I lost it.

Date: 2007-07-01 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
I'm so sad because I really loved this season, I was always excited for each new episode (the Dalek two-parter nonwithstanding) and then this...just kind of washed it all away.

When Ten became God, I lost it.

I may have laughed a little too hard at that point. Probably to keep from crying at the horror. *sighs*

Date: 2007-07-01 03:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
The upside is that the hatred seems to be relatively widespread. I mean, I thought Utopia and The Sound of Drums were a little weak, and was thus surprised at the amount of squee, but this was awful, and most are reacting accordingly. This series had some brilliant episodes (HN/FOB and Blink), a couple that were entertaining (S&J, LE, Daleks In Manhattan), and to my mind, the worst three episodes since the reboot: Evolution of the Daleks, 42, and this. The only thing I'll rewatch is the Saxons' musical number because it was cheesy but weirdly sexy in that way that they are.

I may have laughed a little too hard at that point.

Oh, I was ready to put my foot through RTD's face at that point. After all this hubris arc, he doesn't get a smackdown, he gets elevated? Such utter crap. I will say I thought Tennant was actually pretty good at the crying, but the scene was just stupid.

Date: 2007-07-01 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
I will say I thought Tennant was actually pretty good at the crying

I'll agree to that. It looked real and it seemed to have real emotion to it, which was nice.

But I just don't get it! S1's consequence is that Nine has to basically give up his life and Ten's consequence is what? Having to constantly change companions and be treated as a God? WTF RTD? Have you completely erased S1 from your mind?

Date: 2007-07-01 04:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
Maybe Tennant was crying over the state of his career. Eh, maybe not, I'm sure he thinks Ten is just spiffy-keen, and too many people think he's just the cutest, sweetest thing ever.

I was actually offended by this episode. On several levels. It assumed I was stupid, it beat me over the head with relationships it hadn't properly serviced, it was "tell" don't "show", it wasted its two best actors (Simm and Moen) on a fairly inconsequential plotline, and elevated a character who should be being brought low to literal godhood. It was horrid.

As for making sense, I don't think anything does anymore. It was always a push that Rose could survive the Vortex and Nine couldn't (although the idea that he used it to "heal" her the way she "healed" Jack was a nice one). I did like that Martha saved the day, and that she walked away - although she didn't walk away and say, "I'm too good for you, I'm going to go make out with the hot Doctor who thinks I'm a legend," she was "I'm good, and one of these days, you'll be sorry. I love you even though you're an insensitive, clueless clod."

Just really angry right now. It feels like the last two seasons have done a lot to undermine what I loved in S1, and I want them to LEAVE IT ALONE! If the show is going to turn to dross, at least leave me that. "Just give me this one. I need a series like that one..."

Date: 2007-07-01 05:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
I don't understand what RTD was really going for here. There were so many ways this episode could/should have gone that I'm wondering why ANYONE behind-the-scenes thought this was a good thing.

I was okay with Martha coming back in to explain that, I think because she wanted to and because she needed him to know, almost as a warning, sort of. Like..."Don't effing ignore your companion".

I believe RTD has just ignored S1, deciding to forget it. Otherwise, my head will explode.

Date: 2007-07-01 05:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
she needed him to know, almost as a warning, sort of. Like..."Don't effing ignore your companion".

Although that's almost exactly what Donna said - "you need somebody to stop you." And in the context, Rose was the one who wouldn't stop him. There are different kinds of ignoring.

Man! I'm getting angrier the more I think about this episode. I mean, sure, it's only a tv show, but it really bothers me that the companion that's getting the brushoff (worse than anybody except maybe Adam so far) is the black girl.

Date: 2007-07-01 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
I'm sort of gonna...ignore that this episode happened until I get a bit more ahold on myself. Because I'm half upset, half pissed as hell and if I had another half it'd be so beyond disappointed.

Date: 2007-07-01 03:33 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] boji.livejournal.com
When Ten became God, I lost it.

Yes and it's God-the-tinkerbell version. As for Jack Beau/Boe I love the pun (and had guessed it) but I don't think it works in terms of the timeline or cannon and I think it's explicitly said (according to [livejournal.com profile] omphalos anyway which species Boe is from so... wtf?

Date: 2007-07-01 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
I was getting back on board with this series, I really was - my biggest stumbling block was really Tennant's performance, which rubs me the wrong way 98% of the time, but this episode has just about done it. As I wrote in my own rant, I waited TWO YEARS for Ten to get a smackdown for his delusions of godhood, and RTD just validated it? C'mon.

The Face of Boe thing - I had thought of it, but dismissed it as far too cheesy. Well. Now I know!

I'm sad, too, because Nine/Jack was such a brilliant combination. And Ten and Jack worked together better than I would have thought, though devoid of sexiness, IMO - good friends, though. Martha/Jack had some juice. But mostly, bringing Jack back was a total sop to the fans. There was no plot reason whatsoever, and his superfluity really shone in this episode - the only time in the entire arc he was halfway useful was in the radiation room. I still don't buy the reasoning for leaving him behind - particularly if, as the Face of Boe, he isn't a fixed point in time, he's just a really, really slow-moving one.

Bah! I'm going to treasure S1. Maybe I'll give S4 a go. But maybe not.

Date: 2007-07-01 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arefadedaway.livejournal.com
I knew that getting my squee back for the first time since Eccles meant getting burned eventually. Alas, I had naive hopes that the finale would full circle how much I enjoyed 95% of this season.

*sticks on tinfoil hat and toddles off to bunker*

Date: 2007-07-01 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
That's exactly what I've been thinking. So much enjoyment and love of these season and then...

Instead of Office episodes, I should watch some Nine. This episode made me oddly miss him.

Date: 2007-07-01 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kammgirl.livejournal.com
Hmm interesting when the shoe is on the other foot. :)

Date: 2007-07-01 05:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
Yes, it is. I understood then, it's just now...I can relate.

And yet...I'm still gonna watch...I just know it.

Date: 2007-07-01 07:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kammgirl.livejournal.com
Damn the addiction.

Date: 2007-07-01 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
YES, damnit. There are just some shows that I can't...give up I suppose.
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Date: 2007-07-01 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
It's not only because Martha's left. It's more of what RTD did in the finale. But I mean, the only thing I had to look forward to in S3 was seeing the new companion. And then she gets yanked away and Ten is...the God shit bothered me.

And what do I have to look forward to next season? A companion that I adore being backseated. Um...no thanks.

And yet, I'll be watching it when they air S3 on SciFi.

OH yeah, I forget sometimes too, but the first 3/4 episodes, Nine's not all too nice. But it was still too easy for me to fall for him. And as I said above, this episode made me miss him for some reason.

Date: 2007-07-02 06:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aerynvala.livejournal.com
And was that a black eye I saw on her early in the episode?

Not just a black eye. She was moving stiffly, like she'd been whipped or beat where it wouldn't show. Very subtle.

Date: 2007-07-02 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
Yes. See, as much as RTD wants to say this is a family/children's show he throws in such a subtle thing, that only adults should/would really pick up on.

This episode had a very...adult?...feeling to it, I think.

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