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meganlynn09Hey you guys, I just watched "Journey's End" and there's a couple things I have to say about it...
First off, to get it off my chest, I did not like the end with Rose and the Clone!Doctor. I don't really want to have a discussion about why it didn't settle well with me. But my biggest problem with it was Ten passing the clone off as an early version of Nine and disowning him. And then telling Rose, but you can have him!
Was the fuck is that?!?!
And I'll restrain myself from mentioning what I thought about Rose choosing to make out with the version who could say I love you.
That's all I have to say about that scene. Done.
So, I'm really sorry, Catherine Tate, that RTD thought that a proper ending. Although, if there were ever an argument as to who's story as companion was the most heartbreaking, I really don't think there's any doubt that you won that as Donna.
I haven't cried like that since I first saw "The Parting of the Ways". Serious. I mean, I cried last year when Martha walked away, but that was because I had NOT A CLUE that Freema was leaving. (I have no idea how I didn't know, but I didn't, unlike CE, BP and CT)
This wasn't manufactured, it broke my heart that Donna will never know and Wilf will. And you know that Wilf will be watching those stars every night.
And I'd like to understand why all her memories of the Doctor and her travels had to be erased. Why not just her memories of having the events with his brain in her head, or maybe back to "Turn Left", I DON'T UNDERSTAND. She broke me when she said she wanted to expected to travel in the TARDIS forever. God that was hard. GAH.
*weeps for a moment* *breathes*
It needed more Martha. heh Sorry. I was quite proud of her though. I mean, I have no doubt that it wasn't her first choice to blow up the planet, and that was quite clearly shown when she contacted the Daleks, to negotiate! How awesome was that! All the other "soldiers" would have just done it.
And unlike the Doctor, Rose was able to see that it was a brilliant move (you've no idea how happy I was to see no jealously from either of them, no idea, I almost wept when I saw how amazed and happy Martha was to see that the Doctor had Rose with him, because I've been arguing for a while that you could see in "Utopia" where Martha truly sees why the Doctor "mourned" Rose-even if I didn't like the mentions-and that ultimately she felt left out).
And when Davros was talking about the Doctor turning his former companions into weapons, you saw on her face how sad that made her.
But you know what? I'd rather this planet be in the hands of Martha, Jack, Mickey and Sarah Jane than the Doctor (or at least Ten) ANY DAY OF THE FUCKING WEEK.
Also? I've never liked the idea of Martha joining Torchwood, I don't know, after she left the Doctor, I liked the idea that she could come back anytime to travel. But when her and Jack were walking away, holding hands!, and Mickey joined them and they were like a merry trio, I was sold. I can't wait to see if she's joining them.
AND MICKEY! *hugs him* So, honestly, were Mickey and Jackie having an affair or something? "I'll miss you more than anyone", seriously, what was that going on there?
I liked them all in the TARDIS, jumping around hugging each other (Martha and Rose! And then the Doctor, OHH, that'd have been a good team).
But ultimately, I really don't know what I just got done watching. It felt like there was no point, to any of it. The clone was there to go off with Rose, Donna became DoctorDonna to have her whole memory erased, Mickey was there to bring back to our world.
Oh wait, no, the clone was there to do what the Doctor was too fucking scared to do. And then he had to offer to "save" Davros and if I were able to feel angry with this episode, I'd be raging about that.
I'm really done with Ten. Unless Moffat is bringing in a new Doctor, I won't be watching his series. Most likely, at least. RTD broke my soul with "The Last of the Time Lords" and I never got it back with this series, so I just feel nothing about this.
That's it.
Okay, I'm gonna go and watch my beloved Nine now.
First off, to get it off my chest, I did not like the end with Rose and the Clone!Doctor. I don't really want to have a discussion about why it didn't settle well with me. But my biggest problem with it was Ten passing the clone off as an early version of Nine and disowning him. And then telling Rose, but you can have him!
Was the fuck is that?!?!
And I'll restrain myself from mentioning what I thought about Rose choosing to make out with the version who could say I love you.
That's all I have to say about that scene. Done.
So, I'm really sorry, Catherine Tate, that RTD thought that a proper ending. Although, if there were ever an argument as to who's story as companion was the most heartbreaking, I really don't think there's any doubt that you won that as Donna.
I haven't cried like that since I first saw "The Parting of the Ways". Serious. I mean, I cried last year when Martha walked away, but that was because I had NOT A CLUE that Freema was leaving. (I have no idea how I didn't know, but I didn't, unlike CE, BP and CT)
This wasn't manufactured, it broke my heart that Donna will never know and Wilf will. And you know that Wilf will be watching those stars every night.
And I'd like to understand why all her memories of the Doctor and her travels had to be erased. Why not just her memories of having the events with his brain in her head, or maybe back to "Turn Left", I DON'T UNDERSTAND. She broke me when she said she wanted to expected to travel in the TARDIS forever. God that was hard. GAH.
*weeps for a moment* *breathes*
It needed more Martha. heh Sorry. I was quite proud of her though. I mean, I have no doubt that it wasn't her first choice to blow up the planet, and that was quite clearly shown when she contacted the Daleks, to negotiate! How awesome was that! All the other "soldiers" would have just done it.
And unlike the Doctor, Rose was able to see that it was a brilliant move (you've no idea how happy I was to see no jealously from either of them, no idea, I almost wept when I saw how amazed and happy Martha was to see that the Doctor had Rose with him, because I've been arguing for a while that you could see in "Utopia" where Martha truly sees why the Doctor "mourned" Rose-even if I didn't like the mentions-and that ultimately she felt left out).
And when Davros was talking about the Doctor turning his former companions into weapons, you saw on her face how sad that made her.
But you know what? I'd rather this planet be in the hands of Martha, Jack, Mickey and Sarah Jane than the Doctor (or at least Ten) ANY DAY OF THE FUCKING WEEK.
Also? I've never liked the idea of Martha joining Torchwood, I don't know, after she left the Doctor, I liked the idea that she could come back anytime to travel. But when her and Jack were walking away, holding hands!, and Mickey joined them and they were like a merry trio, I was sold. I can't wait to see if she's joining them.
AND MICKEY! *hugs him* So, honestly, were Mickey and Jackie having an affair or something? "I'll miss you more than anyone", seriously, what was that going on there?
I liked them all in the TARDIS, jumping around hugging each other (Martha and Rose! And then the Doctor, OHH, that'd have been a good team).
But ultimately, I really don't know what I just got done watching. It felt like there was no point, to any of it. The clone was there to go off with Rose, Donna became DoctorDonna to have her whole memory erased, Mickey was there to bring back to our world.
Oh wait, no, the clone was there to do what the Doctor was too fucking scared to do. And then he had to offer to "save" Davros and if I were able to feel angry with this episode, I'd be raging about that.
I'm really done with Ten. Unless Moffat is bringing in a new Doctor, I won't be watching his series. Most likely, at least. RTD broke my soul with "The Last of the Time Lords" and I never got it back with this series, so I just feel nothing about this.
That's it.
Okay, I'm gonna go and watch my beloved Nine now.
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Date: 2008-07-06 09:24 pm (UTC)This was one of my big issues with the beach scene as well. Half of me likes the idea of Rose being with a version of the Doctor that is more like Nine (apparently) but the way it was done was just no good. :/
DONNA! :(
I was so happy to see there was no jealousy between Rose and Martha as well!
Don't know what was going on with Mickey and Jackie but I guess they just got closer after his grandma died maybe. There was no interaction between him and Rose which annoyed me slightly.
I'm getting really fed up with Ten now (in fact I preferred the clone!Doctor at points in this ep). A regeneration is needed soon I think.
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Date: 2008-07-07 02:13 am (UTC)A lot of people that should have didn't get interactions in the episode, which is ridiculous because there was definitely room for it.
I would definitely be one to welcome a regeneration right now!
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Date: 2008-07-06 09:37 pm (UTC)The backhanded swipe at Nine hurt.
The lack of chemistry between Rose and Ten was pretty spectacular.
Rose changed her mind pretty quick.
Donna. Sigh. In some ways, it was a dramatically satisfying ending, but it's torture to watch. And the fact that both of my favourite characters have now been eviscerated by Ten (Nine by being "less than", Donna by being brutally stripped of all her awesomeness) hasn't exactly made me happy.
Yeah, I'm done. I may come back to see how Moffat does, but this killed it for me. And that hurts. I'm grieving for that, too.
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Date: 2008-07-07 02:16 am (UTC)I think so! I like that she had a legitimate plot in the finale.
What RTD has done to Ten is just baffling, I don't like it and he has made me cease to care about many of his characters.
I'm grieving for that, too.
I'm with you on that. And *hugs* for it too.