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Something funny while thinking about Nine and "The Shakespeare Code" again.



So, I was thinking about "Teh Scene" and how I can't ever predict what Ten's gonna do or react. I have a better grasp on his character than I did last season, but it's not very good. I realized while writing my review for the episode last night, that really? I never would have guessed his behavior in that bed.

On the other hand, I always thought I had a pretty good hold on Nine. I feel I have a better grasp on how he would react and do things.

Then I started imagining (I know, I shouldn't) that it was he in that scene. While I was getting the drool off my computer from thinking of him laying on that bed, I was thinking, he wouldn't have said those things, would he? Having just met Martha, he would have kept some of his doubts to himself. Maybe flirt back a little and backpedal some more when he realized she's getting a little too flirtatious, or if they'd know each other longer, get nervous. Like "The Unquiet Dead" when he tells Rose she's beautiful...for a human. ;)

My point of this, I can't get this scene out of my head (Martha and Nine)! That's happened to y'all before right? Imagine a scene from a show and it just won't leave you alone? Help me!


So, my random thoughts for the day. *sigh* I need better, more entertaining days.
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Date: 2007-04-10 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
Oh hon, you know how I am about Nine/Rose, that's why I just referred to them as Nine and Martha because I wasn't looking at it in a shippy way. I'm not trying to imagine them with someone else, I think I'm just trying to ease my mind about that scene. So, I'm not trying to do weird things with teh OTP, just curious really.

See, if Nine had mentioned Rose like that, I don't think he would have made it worse by saying what Ten did. I dunno.

This all just makes me miss Nine. *huggles him*

Date: 2007-04-10 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
While I adore Nine/Rose, and really don't think that anyone else in the two series I think is right for Rose, including Ten, I still see Nine as a true Doctor in the sense that he has room in his hearts for others without lessening what he felt for Rose, although I think that she and Jack have a special place because they helped him heal after the war. And he also flirted like nobody's business. Now, this makes it sound like Ten loved Rose more, but I don't think that's at all true; loved her, yes, but I think he was (as he is with Martha) sending mixed messages like crazy. I definitely get the feeling that Ten didn't need Rose as much as Nine did, but less because Nine was needy and more because Ten wants attention and adoration in a way that made Nine uncomfortable.

Now! With that out of the way, Nine/Martha does something fairly sparky to me, I have to say. They're both straight shooters, and I can see him really grooving on her energy and relative efficiency. I don't think he would have been as verbal, but I can see Martha taking the lead in the conversation. I think the whole thing would play out very differently, but he "covers" for gasping out "you're beautiful" to Rose in TUD not only with "for a human", but showing her 1869 to make it up to her. Still, later in the episode, he apologizes for snapping at Dickens, and he's more sincere in his apologies in general. So actually, I can see him apologizing to Martha and getting up to stare out the window all night. Now what I'd like to see is Martha saying, "Don't be daft" and the two of them curling up to sleep together the way I see him doing with Rose.

See, that's the thing. I can see Nine/Rose being incredibly intimate, sleeping together without ever having sex, even though they want to desperately. But I can't imagine that with Ten - and yet the idea of Ten and Rose having sex is incredibly unappealing to me and always degenerates into slapstick!

It occurs to me that what they lose with making Ten so overtly sexual a Doctor (keeping in mind that I find him about as sexy as plastic lawn furniture) is that any intimacy that isn't sex is denigrated, and that is quite a terrible loss.

I've been writing all day, and so this became an essay...

Date: 2007-04-10 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
Right, and like I was saying, I wasn't trying to look at this in a shippy way. Just imagining it as if Rose had never been there or if Nine had never regenerated and the bed scene happened.

Now, I'm getting this picture in my head of Martha meeting Nine, after travelling with Ten, or still with him, and liking Nine more. Makes me giggle what my mind comes up with.

I can see Nine/Rose being incredibly intimate, sleeping together without ever having sex

Yes!

I get annoyed reading some Nine/Rose fics because I think they overexaggerate Nine when making him not want/scared of a relationship. I think we've talked about that before.

Date: 2007-04-10 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
Now, I'm getting this picture in my head of Martha meeting Nine, after travelling with Ten, or still with him, and liking Nine more.

Have you read [livejournal.com profile] doyle_sb4's little Nine/Martha? It's very good.

Sigh. I don't want Martha to be mooning over the Doctor. It's too predictable and really annoying, and she deserves better.

I get annoyed reading some Nine/Rose fics because I think they overexaggerate Nine when making him not want/scared of a relationship. I think we've talked about that before.

Yes. People really misremember Nine terribly. I've been rewatching EOTW and TUD because I'm writing a Nine/Jabe fic, and I'm really amazed at how much more...relaxed the show was. It wasn't so frantic and in your face all the time - even though there were patches of that in EOTW, there were also quieter times. The scene between the Doctor and Rose there is somewhat equivalent to the Doctor/Martha bed scene in TSC, but it plays more naturally.

Date: 2007-04-10 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
Yes, I did and I enjoyed it very much.

I really hope that Martha doesn't spend time mooning over the Doctor. That's just not something I want to watch.

It was a bit more relaxed then, wasn't it? I loved that.

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