Torchwood

[meganlynn09]

So, I'm following the crowd and adding my thoughts on the first two episodes of Torchwood.  Hopefully I've said something that's different.  Also, SPOILERS.

I really really liked and enjoyed the first two episodes of Torchwood. I liked the first episode a little more, just because those last minutes were amazing, IMHO.

I think it really paid off to watch these first episodes without spoilers, so that when Suzie turned out the way she did? I was completely taken off-guard. When she shot Jack, WTF?! Complete surprise from me, as was him healing and finding out what has happened in regards to coming back to life. Although, I think some are confusing the fact that he can’t die with being immortal, IMHO. We don’t know yet if he’s stopped aging or if he will never die. 

I’m curious though about how people are running with the suicide angle concerning Jack. I’ve always been really uncomfortable with the suicide issue, and having lost a close family friend that way a couple years ago, it’s just that much more for me.

But then I think about it, and he obviously doesn’t seem to like the idea that he can’t die which begs the question, he catches up with the Doctor, maybe even finds a way to reverse this situation, what’s he gonna do? He’s learned that he heals, so the first episode definitely wasn’t the first time that happened. So he might get a bit used to it if it happens enough. I can’t even get into the possibilities of what he’d do after. Mostly ‘cause I keep thinking that when Jack catches up with the Doctor, finds him so different, he’ll just walk away. But of course RTD won’t do that…*bites tongue*

I have to say that I really like Gwen, and unlike some of the people who reviewed the show so far, I’m not trying to compare it to Doctor Who or Angel or whatever other show they compare it to(not that I'm condemning anyone who does). It’s just a new show, and I like Gwen and don’t think of her in terms of Rose v.2. I love her curiosity and she has balls. Seriously, the way she chases after them and just gets so damned determine to find out who the hell Captain Jack Harkness is and what Torchwood is, I wish I had such guts.

And Owen? I hope to fucking God that he’s supposed to be creepy and that it’s okay to hate him. And I’m glad I’m not the only one that was extremely uncomfortable and disturbed by the bar scene. I don’t care what you think, neither the man nor woman would have chosen to sleep with him, what he did was give them something similar to a roofie and that doesn’t settle well with me.

And I kinda didn’t like how Jack gave Gwen something to forget him and everything he told her. Well, more surprised then anything. I actually understand why he did, and that’s fine, but shouldn’t that bother him just a little bit? He had two years of his memories taken from him, and he’s fine doing that to others without consent? I don’t blame Gwen a bit for calling him a bastard.

You know, before these two episodes, I never thought that much of Jack. He was fun with Nine and Rose and I was sad to see him go. And pissed that he was never mentioned again. But with these two episodes, damned if I’m not getting in on the Jack-love.

All the more because he’s so obviously in love with Nine. And I’ve read several times that Jack doesn’t know about the regeneration? So, even though the set designer(?) said that was the Doctor’s hand from "The Christmas Invasion", I still want to know what Jack believes it to be. From his comments, it sounds like he was there during TCI. I’d like something said on the show because I don’t like reading the interviews. RTD needs to start giving answers on the show because I hate his interviews, personally.

But like others, I think it’s pretty safe to say that Jack’s love for the Doctor is canon. For reals.

I don’t have much else to say about the rest of the Torchwood group, except they need more screen time.

I didn’t like the "Gwen humanizes Torchwood" thread in the second episode. That was just weird, ‘cause her research, did it really help that much?

And I really hope they don’t start pairing up the characters. I like what I see with Gwen and Jack, developing as friends and colleagues, and I loved the thank you kiss she gave him because 1) that’s all I saw it as and 2) Jack’s reaction was precious. How many kisses has he received that were not romantic in nature? Just something simple like the kiss Gwen gave him? Just plain simple affection? Who said this? Someone else mentioned that, yeah?

Also, may I be creeped out about Jack’s fascination and love for that hand? I kept thinking, "OMG, it’s a fucking hand" and then thinking if he loves that hand so much, how much does he love the Doctor?

And - Jack’s super hot….with the hair and the clothes…yeah. Although nothing beats Nine’s leather jacket. *sigh*

That’s really all I have to say…for now. I think I might post icons from "Day One" (episode 2) tomorrow. Other than that, any thoughts?

Comments

[wish-girl.livejournal.com]

I totally agree with you. I remained unspoiled and I'm sure my reactions during Torchwood were priceless. ^_^

I don't particularly like Owen at all. In fact, I thought his use of the phermone (I assume that's what it was) spray was rape, really. That made me dislike him on the spot, and he did nothing since that has changed my opinion. Still, with their jobs, I can imagine he would be lonely and he chose that thing to nick due to that. But still, he hasn't redeemed himself in my eyes.

I'm afraid Gwen's sweet boyfriend will be marginalized because she won't have time for him anymore. They made it pretty clear that working for Torchwood is a lifestyle not really a job, and so I'm thinking we won't be seeing much of the nice boyfriend who cooks.

Jack blew my mind in these episodes, I'm all down with the Jack love now, seeing him more than 'just a companion' has been fantastic and I found myself all teary and empathetic towards him. It's like seeing an old friend! But, sometimes, the way the camera catches him...I dunno, has he had a dodgy facelift or something? There's something up with him sometimes.

You know, I saw things slightly differently in that I think Jack might be angry with the Doctor (although I will agree that he still loves him) and might try to use the hand as a bargaining chip for information on what's happened to him or to be able to travel with him somewhere once again. I'm kinda skeptical that it's just for sentimental reasons. Jack, while he could be sweet and adorable, was also a shrewd character, and I'm thinking there's more to this than mere affection. I could be wrong, but that's just me.

I'm also wondering if the Torchwood they 'lost' isn't the one that is in the alternate universe Rose is in. Maybe it fell through? Maybe Rose is working there! Who knows?!

I'm full of theories. Look at me go!

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

In fact, I thought his use of the phermone (I assume that's what it was) spray was rape, really

YES, that's where I was going with the roofie thing, and somehow stopped, heh. But yeah, it just makes me feel better that others are seeing that. Because it really did seem to be there just for laughs and that's bothersome.

I'm okay if we don't see Gwen's boyfriend much if that means he doesn't die or turn into what Mickey was in S1 of Doctor Who (but just S1 because Mickey rocked in S2).

I dunno, has he had a dodgy facelift or something?

Um...I don't think so? They only thing that caught me off-guard was his weird accent. I think John's been working out of the states for too long.

That's a really nice theory on Jack and the hand. One I haven't heard but makes a lot of sense. With how angry he has to be, it fits.

I personally don't like to find theories. Mostly because I get burned by them, I read one and then it turns out to be true. Bad experiences in other fandoms. But I really like yours, and I'll probably be trying to find other's theories on the hand, as long as none of them have spoilers for future episodes.

[beck-liz.livejournal.com]

I'm really so glad I was almost completely unspoiled. I had no idea about Suzy, and no clue about Jack being unable to die. I had seen some people mention "the big spoiler at the end" but since they all also suggested not spoiling oneself for it, I took their advice. :-)

It’s just a new show, and I like Gwen and don’t think of her in terms of Rose v.2. I love her curiosity and she has balls. Seriously, the way she chases after them and just gets so damned determine to find out who the hell Captain Jack Harkness is and what Torchwood is, I wish I had such guts.

Thank goodness. The comparisons are driving me nuts. I really like Gwen, too, and I don't think I would've ever noticed any similarity without it being pointed out to me.

And Owen? I hope to fucking God that he’s supposed to be creepy and that it’s okay to hate him.

Me, too. People are trying to make excuses for what he did, and I just can't see it. Ick.

But like others, I think it’s pretty safe to say that Jack’s love for the Doctor is canon. For reals.

Pretty much, yeah. Although I can also go there for Rose, as well (OT3er, here). He was so fiercely protective of that hand.

And I really hope they don’t start pairing up the characters. I like what I see with Gwen and Jack, developing as friends and colleagues, and I loved the thank you kiss she gave him because 1) that’s all I saw it as and 2) Jack’s reaction was precious. How many kisses has he received that were not romantic in nature? Just something simple like the kiss Gwen gave him? Just plain simple affection? Who said this? Someone else mentioned that, yeah?

Yes! I really want them to just be friends. Initially, they seem to be mirroring the Doctor/Rose relationship, and I'd rather not go there with Jack. Also, I like Gwen's boyfriend and would rather he not end up brokenhearted or dead.

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

Yeah, unlike Doctor Who, I'm trying to be completely spoiler-free with the show. And that means no more reading the scans from magazines, because I think it would have been neat and a little less weird if I didn't know that was the Doctor's hand.

People are trying to make excuses for what he did, and I just can't see it.

I really don't think there is excuses for it. She said no, he "slipped" her something, she changed her mind, the boyfriend most certainly wasn't up for it and BAM, he was. It's not actions that should be condoned, IMO.

Initially, they seem to be mirroring the Doctor/Rose relationship

I...didn't see that, hee. I was too distracted of the overhead shots of the city and being reminded of Angel to be reminded of any real comparisons to DW, aside from the references directly to the parent show.

[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

The hand thing feels almost fetishistic to me. He's fixated cos it's all he has, and somehow doesn't find it creepy that he has a severed hand in a jar.

I'm not convinced he's really suicidal. He'd like to have his mortality back, but I don't think he'd jump off something. He just seems far too comfortable in himself and the world for that.

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

Severed hands are creepy in general. Especially ones that seem to move on their own.

I don't think he's suicidal either. It's like, he's gonna get almost comfortable with the knowledge that he can't be killed. Is he really gonna take things down a notch if the situation is changed?

[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

Rose might keep a severed Hand of Ten, but not as decorative ornament and she wouldn't caress it lovingly. She might keep it in the alt!Torchwood vault and Mickey would make jokes about "that's handy" and so on.


I think I'm currently going with Jack misses the thrill of the idea that he could die, the buzz of real danger.

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

The idea of Rose keeping his hand is more creepy than Jack, because he has actually reasons probably.

Yes, I do believe you've hit the point with Jack.

[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

Yeah, Jack could have some technobabble purpose that makes it less weird. Though Jack's a bit strange so I can buy that his love for the Doctor may just be far creepier than Rose's. (I read fic where she wore Cons in the alt!verse, but that's sweet and they're not A SEVERED HAND.)

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

Although Jack/Doctor makes more sense sometimes, it really would be creey, now.

I read fic where she wore Cons in the alt!verse, but that's sweet and they're not A SEVERED HAND

*nods*

[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

The creepy weirdness is so wrong it becomes right in my head. It's like Jack's coping perfectly well except for how he has a SEVERED HAND IN A JAR (which deserves the capslock at least until I have got used to the notion and thus forget to find it weird).

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

See, I wouldn't have had the problems with the SEVERED HAND IN A JAR if it didn't play like it did in "Day One". If it just sat there innocently, I wouldn't be weirded out. Unless RTD is going for that, and I don't think he intended to.

[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

...and now I can so picture Rusty grinning happily as he says "and so Jack touches the hand and strokes and caresses it, which shows how much he loves the Doctor and isn't even slightly creepy!" And everyone else staring at him.

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

I would have been to one to literally throw a book at his head. And miss because I have horrible aim, but maybe I'd get lucky and hit something.

[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

At least it was a hand and not.. anything else.

(omg i used to have an icon of Nine and Gwyneth cos that bit was really lovely and sad and omg)

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

omg! Yeah, I have this as well.

[nina-ds.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I've seen several comments about "suicidal" and "desperate" and I don't get that - but there is a definite attachment to THE HAND!

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

I will now shudder everytime someone mentions HAND.

[romanticizing.livejournal.com]

I'm glad you're getting in on the Jack-love :D He is indeed awesome. I'm trying to remember--I don't think I liked him at first, in his first episode (mostly because I was thought he was disrupting Doctor/Rose, haha), but by the end of the arc he'd won me over. I'm glad they centered the spin-off around him. I'm really curious to see how they'll do the crossover stuff.

I was really amazed to find Jack/Gwen shippers already. I mean, do they need to do that already? I hope the whole omnisexual thing means there won't be lots of silly drama and pairing up of characters.

HAHA, I don't think Gwen's research helped that much! When Jack was like, "That's brilliant!" I was just going, "No it's not! How is that brilliant?"

And yeah, I think it's so sweet, with Jack and the Doctor. Aww, what is he going to do when he sees it's not Nine anymore? Poor Jack..

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

I love Jack. I was really underwhelmed by him in DW, so I was thrilled to see that I utterly adore him in Torchwood.

I wasn't so surprised by Jack/Gwen shippers, but I was surprised that they have their own comm already. And yet, Gwen and Tosh, unlike Owen and Ianto, don't have their own comms! I feel insulted, especially on Gwen's behalf and almost feel like I should make one for her.

HAHA, I don't think Gwen's research helped that much!

I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed! I saw what they were trying to do, but in the end, all that research didn't matter!

Aww, Nine and Jack. I think Jack's gonna be even angrier with the Doctor when he finds out he changed his face.

[romanticizing.livejournal.com]

I've seen a few people switch to liking Jack now, so that makes me happy :)

I guess I was just surprised by the Jack/Gwen shippers because some of them are really enthusiastic already, and it seems like there's barely anything there to indicate love to me.

Yeah, I would've figured there'd be comms for everyone by now! What's Owen done to deserve a comm? I guess ones for Gwen and Tosh will pop up eventually.

Yeah, the only piece of info that mattered was where she worked, and Gwen didn't even know that! You know (and I'm going to steal my own idea from my post now) the conversation Gwen and Jack have when she presents her research is a little odd. First he's like, "You are brilliant!" and then when she suggests bringing Carys's dad down to see her, he's like, "Are you kidding?!" Then at the end he randomly says, "Are you always this awkward?" Just a weird mix of stuff.

And the Doctor changed a lot more than his face! I wonder how he will react to shouty Ten. And also: since he has the hand, he must realize it's different than Nine's hands were.. so what does he think about that?

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

Jack/Gwen shippers are probably going gaga over the kiss. I personally, and I surprised myself with this, don't ship them. Although, in a few seasons I might change my tune. I loved the kiss, but only because it seemed to platonic to me! I think I explained in my post, that it was just this simple thank you because I think she was probably terrified of having that inside her. And Jack was probably blown away by it because it wasn't romantic.

What's Owen done to deserve a comm?

I don't know, I've gotten a little annoyed in hearing the arguments for and against him. Why don't people understand that it's okay to have your own opinion? And that some people (or most, I'm not sure) see Owen in a bad light?

"Are you always this awkward?"

That was random, but it made me laugh because that's just such a Jack line, except, now I'm thinking he was the awkward one.

I wonder how he will react to shouty Ten.

He'll probably slap him with Ten's own hand.

[romanticizing.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I completely agree with you about the kiss. I definitely think it was platonic. And Jack/Gwen is such an obvious thing to go with--I don't think it'd be as interesting as having Gwen go off with someone else. Also, now that he's in a post-watershed show, I'd like Jack to hook up with some people ffs.

Fandom seems to get stuck on that whole opinion thing a lot. I was just thinking yesterday that when I got into Doctor Who, I had no idea how intense its fandom was. It's kind of overwhelming.

I kind of wish the rape thing hadn't happened because it's going to be the big stumbling block for his character to be likeable. A lot of people are just never going to like him because of that, and it's limiting.

Was Jack the awkward one? He seems cool even when he's awkward.


He'll probably slap him with Ten's own hand.

HAHA, that would be amazing. I'm just sitting here laughing at that right now.

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

I want to see Jack hook up with a man. Knowing RTD, if Jack's gonna fall for anyone, it's gonna be a guy.

Fandom seems to get stuck on that whole opinion thing a lot.

I think that's why whenever I do my DW discussion posts, I'm always putting IMHO or IMO because I need people to understand that I'm just sharing my opinion. And because people that are all "If you don't share this opinion you're stupid" make my blood boil.

Was Jack the awkward one? He seems cool even when he's awkward.

I felt he was awkward when Gwen asked him why he was staring at her after she presented all the research she did. The he was almost flustered, and laughed a little trying to tell you that he thought the whole thing was brilliant. That struck me that he felt awkward.

HAHA, that would be amazing. I'm just sitting here laughing at that right now.

God, now I'm gonna wait for it to happen.

[romanticizing.livejournal.com]

Oh, I so want to see Jack hook up with a man. Actually, I'm going to be shallow and say he should hook up with lots and lots of people. How are we 2 episodes in and he hasn't hooked up with anyone yet?! That's like one of his defining characteristics. I thought the whole reason Torchwood is post-watershed is so Jack could hook up with people ;p

I think that's why whenever I do my DW discussion posts, I'm always putting IMHO or IMO because I need people to understand that I'm just sharing my opinion.

Yeah, it's sad that people don't automatically think that. I mean, of course not everyone is going to agree!

I felt he was awkward when Gwen asked him why he was staring at her after she presented all the research she did. The he was almost flustered, and laughed a little trying to tell you that he thought the whole thing was brilliant. That struck me that he felt awkward.

I just re-watched that scene, and somehow I'd completely forgotten that he did that! That was so awkward, haha. Why did he say that Gwen's awkward? He was definitely the awkward one in that scene.


God, now I'm gonna wait for it to happen.

Haha, I wish it would! We would be grinning madly and all the little kiddies would be traumatized for life.

I wonder how Ten feels about Jack, though. He did, um, NEVER ONCE MENTION JACK (except in the cutaway thing which doesn't really count). Maybe he doesn't want to encounter Jack again :x I don't know why, though!

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

Maybe Gwen will open Jack up and then he'll start getting his groove on.

He was definitely the awkward one in that scene.

He was! And now I'm trying to figure out why he called Gwen on it.

See, the fact that Ten never mentioned him just goes to show how Nine loved Jack most. Or he was worried about his nose being broken 'cause he knows Jack'll be mad.

[romanticizing.livejournal.com]

Maybe Gwen will open Jack up and then he'll start getting his groove on.

Haha! Hopefully. But in a non-exclusive, not-with-Gwen sort of way.

He was! And now I'm trying to figure out why he called Gwen on it.

I really can't figure it out. Maybe he was just trying to hide his own awkwardness? Or maybe he knows she's feeling a bit nervous and awkward, so he's trying to.. I don't know, highlight that or something?

See, the fact that Ten never mentioned him just goes to show how Nine loved Jack most. Or he was worried about his nose being broken 'cause he knows Jack'll be mad.

Haha, totally. For some reason I can't see Nine leaving Jack and not mentioning him. I guess that's just because there hasn't been any Ten/Jack interaction, but whatever. And I have no idea how Ten will react to Jack. I loved how Jack was with Nine, and vice versa, but Ten? I don't know. I want to think it'll be hot like everyone is saying, but I can't really picture it so I have no idea.

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

But in a non-exclusive, not-with-Gwen sort of way.

Exactly! :)

Maybe he was just trying to hide his own awkwardness?

That's all I can think of.

I want to think it'll be hot like everyone is saying, but I can't really picture it so I have no idea.

The only reason I firmly believe it won't be hot is because I'm the only one that doesn't feel Ten/DT is hot or sexy. *shrugs* And I miss my Nine and Jack too much.

[romanticizing.livejournal.com]

I think DT is attractive, but I can't for the life of me picture him with Jack. I guess because Nine/Jack is so embedded in my brain and they just fit together so well. I can't see Jack getting along with Ten as well. And I find DT attractive, but somehow I don't think they'll be all, "Yay, makeout party!" when they reunite.

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

I think DT is cute, that that's my deal with all the Ten/Jack's gonna be so hot. And like you said, it's not gonna be all hearts and roses when they meet up again. For one, Jack probably thinks Rose is dead, and if he finds out Rose had been travelling with the Doctor, I don't think it'd be far out there if Jack completely blamed the Doctor.

I actually have a few list of reasons of how Ten/Jack just will not work. But of course, they're never going to play out because the Doctor is perfect and everyone must love him. *iz very sorry for the bitterness*

[romanticizing.livejournal.com]

For one, Jack probably thinks Rose is dead, and if he finds out Rose had been travelling with the Doctor, I don't think it'd be far out there if Jack completely blamed the Doctor.

Yeah, that must be really sad for Jack, thinking Rose is dead and all. I'm sure he's had a really rough time. I kind of want him to let Ten have it when they meet :x I would really love some more Doctor/Jack stuff in Torchwood, though. Just hints. Anything!


I actually have a few list of reasons of how Ten/Jack just will not work.

Oh, share them! And do not worry; everyone in fandom is bitter about something, I think.

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

I'd love some more hints about the Doctor and Jack. It's so fun to hear things about it.

I'll probably do a post on those reason in my LJ soon. *sighs* I'm so whipped by these shows.

[romanticizing.livejournal.com]

I'd love some more hints about the Doctor and Jack. It's so fun to hear things about it.

Yeah! I loved how they put the Who theme in there when Jack picked up the hand, too. Now I'm going to start making up things. Like whenever he looks pensive, "Ooh! He's thinking about the Doctor!"

*sighs* I'm so whipped by these shows.

Me too :x It just sort of happens! I could have done work today, but no, I practically wrote essays about each episode. Probably a bad idea.

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

Like whenever he looks pensive, "Ooh! He's thinking about the Doctor!"

Now...I'm gonna be thinking that too. Thanks! ;)

[romanticizing.livejournal.com]

Um, I forgot to say something. I want to watch the part in Parting of the Ways where Jack sees the Tardis leaving, just so I can overanalyze his expression and stuff, but I know if I got out the disc I'd get sucked into watching the episode and I'd be sitting here sobbing and my roommate would walk in and be confused. So, probably not a good idea.

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

TPotW always makes me cry. And knowing myself, I'd so get sucked into watching the whole thing again.

[romanticizing.livejournal.com]

It makes me cry, too. They have the music on the DVD menu and it made me sad just hearing that. TPotW was just such a perfect season finale. Way better than the S2 finale. I wondered how Rusty was going to top TPotW, and with S2 he just went way over the top, I felt. Is every season finale going to be like that?

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

It's so refreshing to find someone else who's not all OMG DD was the bestest finale. 'Cause it really wasn't. TPotW wasn't a perfect episode, but like you said, it was the perfect finale for that season. S2 finale didn't affect me the way S1 finale did. I felt the emotion with TPotW. Wish I could say the same about Doomsday.

Is every season finale going to be like that?

God I hope not. I hope he does epic, but I don't want to cry watching it.

[romanticizing.livejournal.com]

Gah, DD definitely wasn't the best finale. I feel like Rusty just threw everything in there: Daleks! Cybermen! Pete! Mickey! Torchwood! Romance! I mean, show some restraint ffs. He could've come up with something creative that wasn't a rehash of everything we'd seen before. It just got to be too much.

And I cried, but part of it was me being sad for Nine/Rose because she'd never see the Doctor again and Nine was a part of it. I think it just triggered some emotion default with the crying and the sad music and everything, because afterwards, when I thought about it, it just seemed kind of dumb. An epic love, destroyed by.. chance? For TPotW, the emotion was more real. I didn't even realize how bad it would be, since I knew CE had only done one season, but it was so sad! My mom came into my room after I'd finished the episode and was alarmed to find me upset, but DW is kind of a traumatizing show! People are always getting killed or leaving or bad stuff is happening.

God I hope not. I hope he does epic, but I don't want to cry watching it.

Yeah, I really want him to try something new. Hopefully no one will be leaving at the end of S3, so he'll be forced to.

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

Yeah, RTD just wanted to show off, it seemed, with Doomsday, and for me, again with S2 in general, it backfired.

I think it just triggered some emotion default with the crying and the sad music and everything, because afterwards, when I thought about it, it just seemed kind of dumb.

YES! God, I've been trying to figure out how to put in words exactly what I thought, and there it is. Thank you!

And on a completely random note, I really wish they would have let DT use his actually accent because I reason I don't like about Ten, and it's shallow, is his voice. It grates so easily.

[romanticizing.livejournal.com]

Yeah, RTD just wanted to show off, it seemed, with Doomsday, and for me, again with S2 in general, it backfired.

I know! Like "Lalala I can use Daleks, whee!" As many people have said, the Dalek/Cybermen showdown was pretty fanboyish.


YES! God, I've been trying to figure out how to put in words exactly what I thought, and there it is. Thank you!

Aw, well, you're welcome :) And I'm usually so inarticulate!

And on a completely random note, I really wish they would have let DT use his actually accent because I reason I don't like about Ten, and it's shallow, is his voice. It grates so easily.

I don't mind his voice (except when it gets kind of high-pitched when he talks fast), but his own accent would've just been more interesting. Can I just take this opportunity to say how much I love Nine's accent? I hadn't watched any Who in a while till this week, and it was so nice to return to that lovely voice.

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

I'm in love with Nine/CE's voice. Seriously. I could listen to it all day. It's glorius.

[romanticizing.livejournal.com]

Me too! He should do audiobooks or something. That would be lovely.

Hey, have you seen the bedtime stories thing that CE did? I didn't even know he did them until I saw them on __kali__'s site tonight, but the links are dead :/

[meganlynn09.livejournal.com]

I think he did those stories like a year ago or so? That might be why the links are dead.

[romanticizing.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I guess it has been a while. Usually her links are good, though. I will email her because they look really adorable. And John Barrowman's are so adorable.