This really isn't a rant.
Okay, so a while ago, before I even knew what the hell fandom was, I used to watch shows and not really have a problem with the pairings on them.
When Buffy and Angel were considered soul mates, at the time I bought into that. Just like I loved Buffy and Riley.
Same thing with Dawson's Creek, don't laugh!, I loved Joey and Dawson and then I loved Joey and Pacey. Ultimately though, Pacey/Joey pwned all.
Gilmore Girls, that show was made for people to ship Lorelai/Luke, I swear! Don't ask me about the show now where it's screwing over ALL the viewers, but there ya go.
Here comes my problem, it's shortly after I get into GG about 2(?) years ago that I discovered this thing called fandom and I found out what it was like to not flow with them.
This didn't actually happen though until I dived into the Battlestar Galactica fandom on LJ. I was huge into that fandom when I joined LJ over a year ago. And I figured out that some of my feelings were in the minority. In fact, as the show continues, a lot of my feelings still continue to be in the minority. But this isn't my point.
As I matured and became more aware and participated in these new fandoms, which today includes Doctor Who and Stargate: Atlantis, I'm finding out what it's like to not like a canon couple and the most popular pairings.
I sometimes wish I were.
I really wish that I could enjoy fandom's biggest pairing in Stargate: Atlantis. I wish I could see the "chemistry", romantic to some I suppose, between Sheppard and McKay. But I don't. I like their friendship. But that's all I could describe it as. (My favorite character on this show also seems to get the most hate in fandom, but not from most viewers it seems).
I really wish that I could have enjoyed Ten/Rose together(wish I could have liked Ten more, but that's something else). I wish I saw in them what so many others do.
I wish I liked...uh, actually I don't wish I liked Jack/Ianto from Torchwood, popular pairing or not, canon or not, they're never going to get me to like it or make it appeal to me.
That doesn't mean I don't like the pairings I'm into. I LOVE and ADORE John/Elizabeth and Nine/Rose. I love finding people who love them like me, others who love Elizabeth.
You know, I could actually list John/Elizabeth with the before fandom list because I saw "The Seige Part 3" before I was in fandoms on LJ, way before. I liked them before I was really into the show. I think what I saw in that hug was what really lured me into watching. And seeing the kiss from "The Long Goodbye" on trailers. Ahem.
But I just wish sometimes I saw more...I don't know. I just wish I could be a little more relaxed with the pairings I don't like and don't see.
I think a lot of this started because of DW, the few fights I saw about Nine/Rose and Ten/Rose. I hardly ever saw actual points! All I saw were shallow observations that made me want to strangle some of the people!
Okay, and I do have one little rant.
UM...if you haven't seen "Doomsday", this might be spoilery, but just a little bit.
PLEASE STOP WITH ICONNING THE FUCKING BEACH SCENE AND WALL SCENE FROM "DOOMSDAY". Nobody needs another Rose is crying icon.
OMG, the more I see the, the more I gather an irrational hatred for the people using them. I made a point, when I recently iconed "Doomsday", that I stopped way before any of the drama. Stopped right after Rose returned from the alternate world.
I won't feel bad when everyone is wailing online after "Doomsday" is aired Friday in the US because I'm so fucking over it.
Yeah, call me a heartless bitch, I'm this close to calling the episode worst ever.
*sigh* I'm sorry. I complain and complain about S2 of Doctor Who, raise your hand if you're wondering why I'm still watching!
Because there was so much to like! I think RTD let his adoration of the Doctor/Rose storyline get in the way. IMHO, he saw this grand romance build up in S1 that he thought he could rightfully let it carry on as if the Doctor hadn't changed.
It happens in life, people get married, someone changes over the years, they get divorced. What happened with the Doctor is somewhat like that. I DON'T CARE IF YOU TELL ME OVER AND OVER, BUT HE'S THE SAME. That's your fucking opinion, not mine. I didn't see my Doctor shine through that often with Ten. People interpret things differently, see things differently. I saw a different man. Hell, the Doctor didn't even know who he is after a regeneration.
I have a lot of hope in S3, but I'm not expecting another S1, I think it'll turn out okay though.
Okay, so a while ago, before I even knew what the hell fandom was, I used to watch shows and not really have a problem with the pairings on them.
When Buffy and Angel were considered soul mates, at the time I bought into that. Just like I loved Buffy and Riley.
Same thing with Dawson's Creek, don't laugh!, I loved Joey and Dawson and then I loved Joey and Pacey. Ultimately though, Pacey/Joey pwned all.
Gilmore Girls, that show was made for people to ship Lorelai/Luke, I swear! Don't ask me about the show now where it's screwing over ALL the viewers, but there ya go.
Here comes my problem, it's shortly after I get into GG about 2(?) years ago that I discovered this thing called fandom and I found out what it was like to not flow with them.
This didn't actually happen though until I dived into the Battlestar Galactica fandom on LJ. I was huge into that fandom when I joined LJ over a year ago. And I figured out that some of my feelings were in the minority. In fact, as the show continues, a lot of my feelings still continue to be in the minority. But this isn't my point.
As I matured and became more aware and participated in these new fandoms, which today includes Doctor Who and Stargate: Atlantis, I'm finding out what it's like to not like a canon couple and the most popular pairings.
I sometimes wish I were.
I really wish that I could enjoy fandom's biggest pairing in Stargate: Atlantis. I wish I could see the "chemistry", romantic to some I suppose, between Sheppard and McKay. But I don't. I like their friendship. But that's all I could describe it as. (My favorite character on this show also seems to get the most hate in fandom, but not from most viewers it seems).
I really wish that I could have enjoyed Ten/Rose together(wish I could have liked Ten more, but that's something else). I wish I saw in them what so many others do.
I wish I liked...uh, actually I don't wish I liked Jack/Ianto from Torchwood, popular pairing or not, canon or not, they're never going to get me to like it or make it appeal to me.
That doesn't mean I don't like the pairings I'm into. I LOVE and ADORE John/Elizabeth and Nine/Rose. I love finding people who love them like me, others who love Elizabeth.
You know, I could actually list John/Elizabeth with the before fandom list because I saw "The Seige Part 3" before I was in fandoms on LJ, way before. I liked them before I was really into the show. I think what I saw in that hug was what really lured me into watching. And seeing the kiss from "The Long Goodbye" on trailers. Ahem.
But I just wish sometimes I saw more...I don't know. I just wish I could be a little more relaxed with the pairings I don't like and don't see.
I think a lot of this started because of DW, the few fights I saw about Nine/Rose and Ten/Rose. I hardly ever saw actual points! All I saw were shallow observations that made me want to strangle some of the people!
Okay, and I do have one little rant.
UM...if you haven't seen "Doomsday", this might be spoilery, but just a little bit.
PLEASE STOP WITH ICONNING THE FUCKING BEACH SCENE AND WALL SCENE FROM "DOOMSDAY". Nobody needs another Rose is crying icon.
OMG, the more I see the, the more I gather an irrational hatred for the people using them. I made a point, when I recently iconed "Doomsday", that I stopped way before any of the drama. Stopped right after Rose returned from the alternate world.
I won't feel bad when everyone is wailing online after "Doomsday" is aired Friday in the US because I'm so fucking over it.
Yeah, call me a heartless bitch, I'm this close to calling the episode worst ever.
*sigh* I'm sorry. I complain and complain about S2 of Doctor Who, raise your hand if you're wondering why I'm still watching!
Because there was so much to like! I think RTD let his adoration of the Doctor/Rose storyline get in the way. IMHO, he saw this grand romance build up in S1 that he thought he could rightfully let it carry on as if the Doctor hadn't changed.
It happens in life, people get married, someone changes over the years, they get divorced. What happened with the Doctor is somewhat like that. I DON'T CARE IF YOU TELL ME OVER AND OVER, BUT HE'S THE SAME. That's your fucking opinion, not mine. I didn't see my Doctor shine through that often with Ten. People interpret things differently, see things differently. I saw a different man. Hell, the Doctor didn't even know who he is after a regeneration.
I have a lot of hope in S3, but I'm not expecting another S1, I think it'll turn out okay though.
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Date: 2006-12-22 04:44 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2006-12-22 05:05 am (UTC)I think I'll watch it too. Right now. Even though I just watched it the other night and my roomate thinks I'm OCD by now. ;) Maybe I am!
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Date: 2006-12-22 05:09 am (UTC)I think I'll watch this one and "The Long Game". It's my secret obsession episode.