HEROES!

Jan. 22nd, 2007 10:55 pm
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YAY, it's back! This episode made me very glad that I've enjoyed the episodes beforehand.



That's it?? I want more CE, now please. Oh boy, I got the giggles when he was stealing that money. I suppose if you're gonna live like that, you have an advantage doing it invisible.

And he's apparantly decided to live invisibly? Interesting choice. So according to Peter's little vision things, we get to see him(CE) smile and laugh? Lots and lots, right?

Can't wait to see more of him next week!

Is there more to say? Um...

I loved Claire trying to get that guy's friendship back, who's name I somehow forgot. OMG remind me please.

OH Matt. Is it really the best thing to tell your wife?

I really want to know more about Sylar, I want to dive into his head and know what he's thinking, seriously.

Claude will be on for how long? He distracted me the whole hour, maybe it would be better if he left sooner rather than later and I can concentrate on the other stories. Yeah right.

Date: 2007-01-23 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seekingwords.livejournal.com
Not enough CE, but I did like seeing him laughing maniacally in Peter's dream, even if it was a bit confusing. Ohh, and in the Canadian preview we saw Claude having a little Doctor Who moment! ^^ That was amazing.

Now I'm kinda wondering; how long 'til we see the first smutty Peter/Claude fanfic? That fandom is already full of slasher, so it shouldn't take very long *is amused*

I was also a bit distracted during the episode, but I liked all the Claire and Hiro scenes, and the last scene with Niki/Jessica was really cool.

Date: 2007-01-23 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
OMG, I completely forgot about Hiro whom I just adored in this episode! Finding the sword a fake and them downcast "I'm going to take it back". Aww.

I need more of CE, hopefully they'll give us that next week. Although, it was kinda obvious they were gonna save him till last. I just got a blast out of seeing his name saved for last in the credits.

I'm curious where they're heading with Niki, doesn't seem like an open avenue there.

Date: 2007-01-23 07:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] romanticizing.livejournal.com
Ohh, and in the Canadian preview we saw Claude having a little Doctor Who moment!

What was that?

Date: 2007-01-23 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seekingwords.livejournal.com
He said "Fantastic!" in a very Doctor-ish way.

Date: 2007-01-23 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
Now I'm kinda wondering; how long 'til we see the first smutty Peter/Claude fanfic?

I thought that the minute the character was revealed. Not that CE has a history of chemistry with co-stars or anything ::snort::

(sorry about the weird first post - for some reason, the "copy" function wigged out on me!)

Date: 2007-01-23 07:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] romanticizing.livejournal.com
And he's apparantly decided to live invisibly?

Oh, really? I'm really wondering about that. Does he just hang out on the streets or something?


Claude will be on for how long?


We know (thanks to that interview) he's at least on till episode 16. And since he's leaving in 2 weeks for that other movie.. well, I'm not sure how long it takes to shoot an episode. If they're working on episode 16 now, and that's 4 weeks in advance.. Oh, I don't know, I'm horrible at math. Anyway, I read that there's going to be a break of a few weeks in March, so maybe an arc will end then? Maybe he'll just stay for this one arc?

Date: 2007-01-23 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
Oh, really? I'm really wondering about that. Does he just hang out on the streets or something?

I don't know, that's just what I got from his little scuffle with Peter, "Nobody sees me". So whether or not that's what he's chosen or that's just how it is, I don't know.

I'm confused on how long he'll be on, but I'm just gonna eat up all the episodes he's in.

Date: 2007-01-23 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] romanticizing.livejournal.com
I don't know, that's just what I got from his little scuffle with Peter, "Nobody sees me".

Ohh yeah, he did say that! I think I added on a "..unless I want them to" in my head.

Yeah, I guess it's probably best not to know when he's going to leave. Imagine watching Parting of the Ways without knowing he was going to leave!

Have you seen this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emEIFRAEMwg)?

Date: 2007-01-23 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
Why can't we get those previews?! Heh, he says Fantastic. He created something very bad when he made that the catchphrase of his Doctor, you know.

Date: 2007-01-23 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] romanticizing.livejournal.com
Him saying "fantastic" is so exciting. SO EXCITING. Yeah, it's such a simple catchphrase, so people say it often and I just confuse everyone by grinning madly.

Date: 2007-01-23 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
Thanks for that link. I love that they took the catchphrase and turned it upside down!

guess it's probably best not to know when he's going to leave. Imagine watching Parting of the Ways without knowing he was going to leave!

True, and OOWWWWW!

Date: 2007-01-23 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] romanticizing.livejournal.com
No problem! I wish they'd show that in the US. I just got really excited to hear him say that line :) And next week he'll say it on my TV! *glee*

I tried to have my friend watch S1 of New Who without knowing CE was leaving at the end, but she liked it so much she was sneaky and looked up how many episodes were left in the season and found out about the regeneration. That's probably good, though, because it would have traumatized her for life or something.

Date: 2007-01-23 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
I know everyone is wailing over Doomsday, but it kind of irritates me, because frankly, nothing has anything on POTW for emotional crunch. Doomsday made me cry, but it also made me angry because it was so manipulative. The crying in POTW came from the flow of the story and the real emotions, plus great acting.

Date: 2007-01-23 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] romanticizing.livejournal.com
Oh, definitely. I just re-watched POTW recently, and I was reminded of how great it is. It totally blows Doomsday out of the water. You really feel for the characters, and the characters act true to themselves. It just makes sense, and it's better than anything I could have imagined. And the acting in it is amazing.

You're right about Doomsday being manipulative. It just seemed engineered to provoke the most tears, with the music and the doomed love and all. And I think that made barely any of it seem real.

Date: 2007-01-23 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
It just seemed engineered to provoke the most tears, with the music and the doomed love and all. And I think that made barely any of it seem real.

Exactly. It doesn't help that I never felt the love between Ten and Rose to nearly the same degree that I felt between Nine and Rose. The Ten/Rose chemistry was just...well, about average for a TV show, even a little "forced" along the lines of "squee! we're so cute, everyone should just think we're wonderful as we twit around the cosmos causing destruction and being cute about death and werewolves!" whereas Nine/Rose just breathed out of every touch and glance and word.

Date: 2007-01-25 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] romanticizing.livejournal.com
Nine/Rose just breathed out of every touch and glance and word.

Would you mind if I quoted you on that? I'm going to write something about S1 because I rewatched it recently, and that just sums it up perfectly.

But anyway, yeah, Ten/Rose never really worked for me either. It was like all the wonderful stuff with Nine got thrown out the window. Along with the subtlety and things making sense and stuff. I think that helped it attract a different audience, but more viewers =/= good!

Date: 2007-01-26 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
Would you mind if I quoted you on that?

No, of course not. I look forward to seeing what you have to say.

It was like all the wonderful stuff with Nine got thrown out the window.

That does tick me off. To get back to an earlier discussion, I don't really like Ten. It has nothing to do with him coming after Nine - I just don't like him, and it bothers me that people think he is healthier/cuter/a better match for Rose, because I was really uncomfortable by the way that played out. Yes, they attracted a lot of teenyboppers, and that's fine in and of itself (teenyboppers need love, too!) - what bothered me was that the show was basically saying, "If the complex, soulful older man dies for you, it's perfectly fine to automatically fall in with the next guy who comes along because he's cute, even if he is prone to genocide, mass murder, and megalomania!" I know they meant to say that the outside doesn't count, but that's really not how it came out. (I'm sleepy and cranky, but I recently rewatched a couple of episodes of S2 just to see if they were better than I remembered, and I'm afraid they were worse; I was quite disheartened.)

Date: 2007-01-26 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
I recently rewatched a couple of episodes of S2 just to see if they were better than I remembered, and I'm afraid they were worse; I was quite disheartened

I just wanted to jump in and agree wholeheartedly here because the episodes in S2 really don't get better on second viewing, they tend to get worse as you said. While I grow fonder each time I rewatch a S1 episode.

Date: 2007-01-26 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
Yeah. Sigh. I hate to keep coming back to this point, but while the writing is weaker, there's no doubt, I just really dislike Tennant's performance. I don't like his choices, and he doesn't have the skill to pull off what he tries. I find his character unpleasant, and yet not interesting enough for an anti-hero. I am really perplexed that people find him so likable, because I really don't see it.

Date: 2007-01-26 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] romanticizing.livejournal.com
I look forward to seeing what you have to say.

Thanks! It had been a little while since I last saw some of the episodes, so I found a lot of interest there. I'm glad they're so good you can return to them again and again.

I mostly agree with you about Ten. It's weird, but the more I see David Tennant in non-Who things (and the more I re-watch the S1 episodes), the less I like him as Ten. It's really weird, since I think he's great in other things. I don't know--he always seems to slip into caricature or being smiley or shouty.

"If the complex, soulful older man dies for you, it's perfectly fine to automatically fall in with the next guy who comes along because he's cute, even if he is prone to genocide, mass murder, and megalomania!"

Gah, really. That's so depressing but you're right. I think they could have pulled it off, maybe, if it was all a setup for something about the dangers of hubris &c. but throughout the series they just seemed to sort of endorse it all. It got slightly obnoxious. It was just an odd switch in tone, and it feels like it kind of got dumbed down.

I've been meaning to re-watch some S2 episodes but I haven't really felt up to it as I think for most of them it'd be kind of depressing. The only one I've watched several times is The Girl in the Fireplace.

I really don't like it when people seize onto "Oh, Nine was kinda mental" and use that as an explanation why Ten is so much better for Rose. That and the whole "regeneration = magic loss of guilt/depression/Time War stuff, and it's all thanks to Rose!" thing.

Even the explanation Rusty (or whoever) gave for Ten's accent grates, as if they're slightly saying, "Never mind that bloke with the Northern accent!"

Maybe it's because TPTB gave us such a dramatic contrast with Nine and Ten.. it was just a shock to go from one to the other. And it sucks because I was amazed to discover this great show, and then in watching S2 it was just depressing to see so much of what was great about it get ripped apart.

I just stumbled onto something I hadn't seen before--and I guess I'm probably the last person to see this--but it's this video on the BBC site (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/characters/doc9.shtml), the "on being cast" one. CE seems to indicate he'd be around for two or three seasons. *cries* Unless maybe he was just saying that so people wouldn't know he was leaving..? I don't know. Oh well.

I always enjoy reading your thoughts on Who, by the way. They're always so well-put and organized, and just interesting to read.

Date: 2007-01-26 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
the more I see David Tennant in non-Who things (and the more I re-watch the S1 episodes), the less I like him as Ten. It's really weird, since I think he's great in other things. I don't know--he always seems to slip into caricature or being smiley or shouty.

Yeah. ::sigh:: I mean, he's been gigging around for 10-12 years now, and I've seen him in other things, and he's never impressed me that much. I like him in interviews and such, but I just don't think he's a very good actor. He's much better at light comedy than anything else, but when he tries to go for genuine emotion (or menace), I just never buy it. He seems to be "acting", not feeling it. He was probably best in Blackpool; Casanova was pretty much the same character as Ten, though I think he didn't force so much. I'd still give it a B or a B- as a performance, but it's not so squirmingly awful as some parts of DW (fear my monkey-scrunch face of anger! or woe! or happiness!.

That and the whole "regeneration = magic loss of guilt/depression/Time War stuff, and it's all thanks to Rose!" thing.

No kidding! And if he's magically healed, then what's with all the megalomania and mass murder? If he's not healed, why isn't he? He got everything he wanted, the ungrateful sod. It's just not good character development whichever way you look at it. As for the accent/pretty boy thing, yeah, I don't know why people find that cute or sweet - I believe the term I'd use would be "vomitous". I agree, there were a lot of really unpleasant things in S2 that I thought were going to have ramifications - but no! And Bad Wolf? Grrr.

I was amazed to discover this great show, and then in watching S2 it was just depressing to see so much of what was great about it get ripped apart.

Yes, Rose was dismantled (I am astonished at the people who thought she got stronger at the end of S2...WTF?!), and Pete's sacrifice was undermined, NOT TO MENTION all that Nine did to heal and Ten basically swans in and picks up Rose because he's supposedly a pretty boy (not that I see it that way, but...). Wouldn't it have demonstrated that Rose was more adult if she realized that she didn't need a pretty boy to fall in love? Those who think Nine and Rose weren't in love already are so stupid I don't even need to talk to them... I think Rose was in love with the ghost of Nine in the body of a pretty boy (doesn't reflect well on here, but there you go); I think Ten loved her, but more like a birthright than for anything either of them did. Urgh. I get riled up just thinking about what I hated about S2!

CE seems to indicate he'd be around for two or three seasons. *cries* Unless maybe he was just saying that so people wouldn't know he was leaving..?

I have a strong suspicion he was being cagy. I've always been surprised by the idea that he would want to commit for very long (or maybe he saw the S2 scripts and said "GET ME OUT OF HERE!") I've always supected it was a deal between CE and RTD - CE would get to do something different, and RTD would get his big prestige name to sell a rickety series restart to a gunshy BBC. Honestly, if they'd come back with Tennant, I never would have watched past the first episode. I can't imagine him grabbing someone's hand and saying "Run!" and that person not going, "Excuse me, who the hell are you?!" I remember watching New Earth and thinking that even Cassandra wouldn't hesitate to jump on a lift cable with Nine. For all his darkness, there was something solid and secure and good about him. I wouldn't mind having a more malicious Doctor - it's just that I don't think the show realizes how vile Ten can be!

I always enjoy reading your thoughts on Who... They're always so well-put and organized, and just interesting to read.

Thank you - that's a high compliment indeed! Especially as I've just ranted and rambled here. I'm just continually disturbed by the message they're sending with S2, particularly when they know that their audience includes a lot of teens and tweens. And having an unpleasant character who's also designed to appeal to young girls is especially disturbing. It just creeps me out. It also disappoints me that so many people inside and outside the show can't see through it.

Date: 2007-01-31 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] romanticizing.livejournal.com
He was probably best in Blackpool

Funny you should mention that, as I've started watching it lately and I'm halfway through. I've been wondering why I'm liking him so much more in this than in Who. Maybe because it is a comedy, I don't know. I'm going to keep in mind what you said about acting vs. feeling when I get around to rewatching some of S2. I'm hoping it's better than I remembered, but I feel like it might be worse since the "shiny! new!" aspect is gone :x

And if he's magically healed, then what's with all the megalomania and mass murder? If he's not healed, why isn't he? He got everything he wanted, the ungrateful sod. It's just not good character development whichever way you look at it.

Yeah, I don't really know where they're hoping to go with the Time War stuff now. S1 worked really well as a self-contained thing, I think, partly because the ending had so much to do with the Time War that we heard about all season long.

I think, for S2, it's kind of weird how the Doctor and Rose got more happyhappyhappy but then he'll randomly blow up at people. Like the Rose-sans-face thing. What about the other people who didn't have faces?

And Bad Wolf? Grrr.

What about it?

I am astonished at the people who thought she got stronger at the end of S2...WTF?!

Whenever I find one of those people, I am just amazed because.. how can they exist?! That's a really cracked idea of getting stronger.. Rose just became so selfish and not even much of a character, really.

Pete's sacrifice was undermined

I have a whole list for my post, if I ever get around to writing it, called "Doctor Who things from S1 which reappeared, annoyingly, in S2."

NOT TO MENTION all that Nine did to heal and Ten basically swans in and picks up Rose because he's supposedly a pretty boy

I loved the slow-burn chemistry of S1, and with S2 it was like it was over before it even began. They're all fine and happy and lovey without any conflict or real passion. It seemed like an oddly hollow romance.

Wouldn't it have demonstrated that Rose was more adult if she realized that she didn't need a pretty boy to fall in love?

I guess that does fit in with S2!Rose being quite stupid, though. Gah, and I hate it when people write about Ten being Rose's "reward" for helping Nine because Ten is omgsopretty. That makes me want to cry.

I get riled up just thinking about what I hated about S2!

Same. It's understandable, I think. S1 was just so good and we had high expectations and then they got crushed. Not that it was so bad, but that there were times where it could have been amazing and failed. That's more depressing.

I've always supected it was a deal between CE and RTD - CE would get to do something different, and RTD would get his big prestige name to sell a rickety series restart to a gunshy BBC.

That makes sense to me. The more stuff I see of CE's, the more his leaving after one season makes sense to me (although obviously I would have loved to see him in another season). I think it's so cool that he agreed to try it out at all.

I can't imagine him grabbing someone's hand and saying "Run!" and that person not going, "Excuse me, who the hell are you?!"

Haha--I can totally picture that happening! I love that "Run!" moment so much because that just completely hooked me and you're right, he does seem like someone you'd trust at that moment. In both a running-from-monsters way and a series-reviving way.

it's just that I don't think the show realizes how vile Ten can be!

That's kinda scary, isn't it? The Runaway Bride gave me some hope that things would change, though. It'd be nice, anyway..


Thank you - that's a high compliment indeed! Especially as I've just ranted and rambled here.


Oh, rant and ramble all you like :) I do enjoy discussing this stuff. I've stopped feeling guilty about it as I figure people do the same with, say, literature, so why not TV or film?

What other stuff have you seen with CE, by the way? Or would it be easier to ask what you haven't seen? I'm finally getting around to watching some of his other stuff these days.

Date: 2007-01-31 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
I think, for S2, it's kind of weird how the Doctor and Rose got more happyhappyhappy

Although it struck me as very forced and not really sexy - more just friends. Or, even more, as if they were tapdancing so fast so that they didn't have time to acknowledge that the chemistry had changed. I know Billie and David became close friends, and that's fine, but she was much sexier with Chris. I don't think DT's very convincing as sexy, personally - he's way too adolescent for me, but he also has too much regard for himself and not enough attention to anyone else to be genuinely sexy (it seems like selfish energy, basically).

but then he'll randomly blow up at people. Like the Rose-sans-face thing. What about the other people who didn't have faces?

Verily. Only if it affects him, damn everyone else. Again, people talk about how Ten is the "alien slut-boi", and all I can think about is how flirtatious Nine was, and how passionately interested in so many people he was. That's much sexier to me, but it was also about more than that - Nine genuinely seemed to care about Gwyneth, Nancy, Suki, Lynda, etc. (not to mention flirting like crazy with characters like Jabe and even Dickens!). Whereas, yes, Ten only really seems to care when Rose is endangered, and he's pretty free-wheeling with the massive destruction.

The Runaway Bride gave me some hope that things would change, though. It'd be nice, anyway.

Yes, but I'm not sure. I mean, Donna called him on it, and I can understand killing the Queen/Empress Rachnoss - but couldn't there have been a cosmic version of sweeping the children up in a glass and releasing them outside? Why go straight to genocide? I also have to say, Tennant's "emo" never works for me. He works too hard. It's unfair to compare him to Eccleston, who can just have tears appear out of nowhere and a depth of feeling that he always carries with him...but Tennant seems more artificial than most, and does suffer from coming after CE.

What other stuff have you seen with CE, by the way? Or would it be easier to ask what you haven't seen?

I was lucky in that I caught on to him very early - Cracker, Shallow Grave - and those were followed quickly by Our Friends in the North and Hearts and Minds, which sealed the deal, so I made an effort to see things he was in. There are some really early things I haven't seen (I'd love to see Business with Friends, a Channel 4 short that got some stunning reviews, in which he played a skinhead named Angel) and Flesh and Blood, which was for British TV a couple of years ago but before things were widely available on the net. But I've seen most everything else. And he never, ever disappoints, which amazes me. He was even excellent in Perfect Parents, which wasn't that great.

Date: 2007-02-01 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
I was literally driving home tonight when I realized I had tangented (again) and didn't answer some of the questions:

This one's not important, but...

I hate it when people write about Ten being Rose's "reward" for helping Nine because Ten is omgsopretty. That makes me want to cry.

Makes me want to barf.

like an oddly hollow romance.

It didn't seem at all sexy to me. Friendly, buddyish, but... Rose struck me as a sexually healthy young woman in S1; in S2, she struck me as a 12-year-old with a crush.

And Bad Wolf? Grrr.

What about it?


They touched back in T&C, and then nothing - until suddenly, Rose remembers "offscreen" what happened. Does she know Nine died for her? Does she even know he kissed her? What happened to her? I want more!

I think it's so cool that [CE] agreed to try it out at all.

I just recently came across a quote in an interview with RTD where he flat-out stated that CE was "out of the show's league". That's a pretty big statement! But RTD cast him as Stuart the shag machine in QAF, the son of God in Second Coming, and the Doctor, his childhood idol, so it's actually rather interesting, their relationship. They appear to be on very good terms still, so I can't imagine CE just walked out. I think RTD knew from the beginning and was willing to take what he could get!

Ha! BBCAmerica is just running the "Trip of a Lifetime" commercial. Has there ever been a more compelling (or sexier) promo? I think not.



Date: 2007-02-01 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] romanticizing.livejournal.com
I was literally driving home tonight when I realized I had tangented (again) and didn't answer some of the questions

Haha, don't worry about it :) By the way, I keep meaning to ask--you work in DC, right? We were talking about it sometime but I think the comment got lost in my email somehow. You mentioned something about the LoC, I think.

Although it struck me as very forced and not really sexy - more just friends. Or, even more, as if they were tapdancing so fast so that they didn't have time to acknowledge that the chemistry had changed.

Hmm, I think that's a good point. It's kind of like I was waiting for S2 to start--with something like 'Rose' of S1--and it never really did. It's unfortunate that our introductory episode to Ten was The Christmas Invasion. I thought it was awful. (And New Earth, and Tooth and Claw..) They did seem more like just friends, though. No tension at all, which was one of my favorite things about S1. There weren't any moments in S2 like anything from The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, which was my favorite arc of S1.

in S2, she struck me as a 12-year-old with a crush

I think a lot of it was that "forever" stuff they rammed down our throats. That really threw me since in S1 Rose seemed like she'd eventually leave like any other companion. Just.. why?! Huh?

Again, people talk about how Ten is the "alien slut-boi", and all I can think about is how flirtatious Nine was, and how passionately interested in so many people he was.

Oh, yeah, that's true! I like that line in The Long Game, about visiting new places, kissing strangers, &c. just because at the time I was a little surprised that he said that, but watching it again, it seemed to fit.
And Ten has the whole "I'm sorry. I'm so sorry" thing. I think why that grates for so many people is because it doesn't really seem sincere. There were a few times in S1 where Nine said something comparable, but I don't remember anyone complaining about that.

I can understand killing the Queen/Empress Rachnoss - but couldn't there have been a cosmic version of sweeping the children up in a glass and releasing them outside? Why go straight to genocide?

Yeah.. he's the Doctor, he's not supposed to do that. He's supposed to find a compromise when it looks like there's not one. That kind of changes the whole tone of the show.

It's unfair to compare him to Eccleston, who can just have tears appear out of nowhere and a depth of feeling that he always carries with him...but Tennant seems more artificial than most, and does suffer from coming after CE.

It's really weird for me, since I hadn't seen DW before Nine, so I came to expect that and then.. well, everything except Nine is just a lot different. I really wonder what the reaction to New Who would be if it had started with DT. I've heard some people say it never really caught on with them till DT arrived, so.. *shrugs*

They touched back in T&C, and then nothing - until suddenly, Rose remembers "offscreen" what happened.

Ah, yes, that really bugs me! And I don't think we'll ever get any more because she's gone now. S2 played out like she had no idea what happened, and suddenly she's rambling about the Vortex and stuff. I thought we might get some reflection on Nine or Jack or anything from PotW, but no. It's really frustrating!

I just recently came across a quote in an interview with RTD where he flat-out stated that CE was "out of the show's league".

Oh, really? Gosh. I hadn't really realized all that about their relationship. I wonder how he settled on DT for Ten, then?

BBCAmerica is just running the "Trip of a Lifetime" commercial. Has there ever been a more compelling (or sexier) promo?

Ooh, where can I see it? Sounds lovely :x

As for other CE stuff: I watched I Am Dina the other day and I'm finally going to start Cracker tomorrow. I have several other things stored up that I will hopefully watch with my friend who also likes CE. I'm really glad I'm finally going to get a chance to see Our Friends in the North--I'd nearly given up hope on that one.

Date: 2007-02-01 06:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
you work in DC, right?

I do. ::finger to nose:: not something I can talk about on an "open channel" ;-)

Re: TCI - I was actually going with Ten, even though he was too hyper, up until the swordfight (where he looked like an idiot), and then the Harriet thing. At that point, I started disliking both him and RTD. RTD actually thinks Harriet deserves what Ten did to her, and to me, it was petty and sexist, and unfair for such a wonderful character. There are moments where I started to like Ten, but they were usually only a line reading here and there. I was ready to give him a chance, but I felt battered and bruised by the end of the series.

They did seem more like just friends, though. No tension at all,

There was something revolting to me about their relationship - they were like one of those couples who were just so cutesy you want to slap them. And I did want to, often. The smugness was overwhelming, and it felt incredibly superficial.

I think why that grates for so many people is because it doesn't really seem sincere. There were a few times in S1 where Nine said something comparable, but I don't remember anyone complaining about that.

I think that's exactly it for me - he doesn't seem to mean it. With Nine, you not only knew when he was being sincere, you could read the layers even when he was covering up.

That kind of changes the whole tone of the show.

Just a bit, yeah! I don't like Ten not because he's not Nine, but because he's not very nice! And yet, not really dark or charismatic enough to pull off the anti-hero thing.

I had watched DW on and off over the years, but could never really get into it. But I think S1 is one of the very finest series of television ever made, and it pretty much had me from "Run!" S2 pales in comparison, there's nothing like the depth of EOTW or The Unquiet Dead, let alone Dalek, Father's Day, or TEC/TDD! I even like AoL/WWIII better than the Cyberman two-parter because of all the character stuff that people forget. SR was the best episode of S2, IMO, and GITF was a noble failure - mostly because David Tennant and Sophia Myles failed to make me believe in or care about their relationship. It can be done - Captain Jack Harkness in TW and the Famke Janssen episode of ST:TNG prove that you can do an emotionally involving love story in 42 minutes. This wasn't one of them for me.

I kind of get why they think DT is more "doctorish" - but I feel like he's doing an imitation of the Doctor rather than being him. Even if CE wasn't traditionally "Doctorish" - whatever that is - Nine is still a compelling and rich character, and personally, I see a lot of Two, Three, Four, and Six in him.

I thought we might get some reflection on Nine or Jack or anything from PotW, but no. It's really frustrating!

That and the Bad Wolf thing were what carried me through S2. But no. We got Doomsday, which is a really badly written episode. POTW was so much better, and it was about more than the Doctor and Rose, while still being wrapped up in them. And I'm sorry, but Tennant screaming after Rose just looked silly. He was better in the beach scene, but that's because he wasn't really doing anything. He could learn from that, frankly.

I wonder how he settled on DT for Ten, then?

RTD has a thing for weedy adolescent boys ::mrow:: Half-joking, but it's true. He's lusting over Kenny Doughty in the commentary of The Second Coming - to be fair, he's all wowed by CE's and Lesley Sharp's acting (as well he should be), and often comments on how beautiful CE is, but he's panting over KD, who's just kind of "meh" bland (although he might be a better actor than DT; he's certainly less hyper).

Trip of a Lifetime (http://youtube.com/watch?v=_5iyFceGj4U)

Best promo ever. Seriously, the editing is fantastic, and that "Do you wanna come with me?" is practically spinetingling.

Date: 2007-02-01 06:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
I Am Dina

Wow, that lead actress is kind of fascinating in a trainwreck kind of way, isnt she? CE plays such a stereotypical Russian poet revolutionary, and he's so thin he seems to just sublimate into a pair of burning eyes. That said, the scene in the organ loft is pretty hot.

Our Friends in the North

I'll be interested to see how this plays for an American audience! There's a scene in the first episode between CE and Daniel Craig that's one of my all-time favourites. And the beach scene with Nicky and Mary is classic - when it aired in England, the next day everyone was talking about "going all the way to New Orleans"! XD It's the British version of Burt Lancaster and Deborah Kerr kissing in the surf in From Here to Eternity.

Date: 2007-01-24 09:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snoopoony.livejournal.com
I want more CE toooooooooo! He was great for the few seconds he was there! :D

As for his power, I'm wondering if he's not invisible... like permanently. I don't see it as a choice, who would want to be invisible? I mean, he doesn' t seem like he is very rich if he steals others' money. So I guess he doesn't have a job, which could be explained by the fact that he is invisible...

Date: 2007-01-24 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
Next week should be here NOW. I'm going to be saying that a lot.

I've been wondering about his invisiblity. It doesn't seem like something he'd chose to live with, unless this was his life before he found out his ability. But, since he's been living with it for so long, he's probably grown used to it, whether or not it was a choice, so who knows.

See, this is way next week or the week after needs to be here NOW!

Date: 2007-02-02 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
Hey, there, Megan - sorry we kind of hijacked your thread, but I thought you might not mind a little CE-lovin'.

How are you doing? Feeling any better?

Very best thoughts, wending their way to you...

Date: 2007-02-02 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
Not at all, I love the convo!

Also, I never thought I would be in love with a promo for a TV show, but that link you provided. Damn.

I'm feeling a bit better, thanks. It's been weird and even hard(I had trouble opening a can of tuna because I knew my cat wouldn't come running!)

Thanks for the thoughts! Just wishing it were Monday already.

Date: 2007-02-02 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nina-ds.livejournal.com
Isn't that trailer amazing? Traitorous, I know, but it's better than "Rose" in terms of excitement. There's a version on YouTube with this really bitchy comment about him being "unsuited and ungrateful" for the role, but I find the trailer all kinds of compelling. Besides, RTD was right, in a way, he was out of the show's league...but I don't think he's ever done anything to make it seem that way, other than not committing his life to it. For an actor of his stature to do it, they should see it as a gift! I never loved the show except for his run.

I'm feeling a bit better, thanks. It's been weird and even hard(I had trouble opening a can of tuna because I knew my cat wouldn't come running!)

Aww, I know. I still think of the dog we had when I was a kid when I see individually-wrapped American cheese slices, because she loved those. I'm glad you're feeling a little better, though.

I would be hoping it was Monday...if I didn't have so much to do between now and then!

Date: 2007-02-02 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meganlynn09.livejournal.com
Some people get so bent out of shape over the fact that CE was only there one year, makes you think they're bitter about his leaving because they wanted him to stay. Wonder if the outrage would be the same if DT only stayed a year.

What bothers me is when people buy into the rumor that he left so he wouldn't be typecast.

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