Doctor Who, IMO
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meganlynn09Too lazy to put this under a cut, SEASON TWO SPOILERS.
You know it's been bothering me for a while now that I could ship Nine/Rose and not Ten/Rose, I almost considered myself a hypocrite, which I'm not because it's perfectly reasonable to ship one and not the other.
I always thought it was only because Rose was too clingy and they acted like immature teenagers. But it's more.
I didn't really like Rose in season two, and I really don't want to hear more of that "I loved her even more for her flaws in season two" because to me it's crap. Just because I loved the character in season one, doesn't mean I'm gonna cut her slack in season two. It's how I've always been with my characters. She just wasn't as good anymore. She never questioned Ten, she was jealous over the littlest of things and treated others (like Mickey) like they weren't a part of her "clique" with Ten.
That bothered me on a more personal level because I had a friend that would do that. If her boyfriend was around, her friends would be forgotten, if her boyfriend was ignoring me (which happened often as we never got along), she would too. So, maybe that's why I didn't really appreciate Rose in season two. More-so, it comes down to the fact of what RTD was saying, that the Doctor "Time Lorded" or whatever Rose. That wasn't a good thing! She wasn't confidant in season 2, she was foolishly smug to the point where danger didn't matter as long as she was with the Doctor.
That bothered me as well. It's one thing to risk your life for someone, like the Doctor and Rose did for each other, but to not really care about what you could be stepping into, that's not cool. One would think after traveling with the Doctor for a matter of time, you would be more wary of the danger, instead of less. And yet, she seemed to be enjoying it more and more, and that's unsettling for myself. Hmmm, this is the first time I really thought about that.
My point, though, is that I can't really ship a couple when I don't like one of the two. Especially if I don't really like either of them. Same thing with BSG. I've pretty much given up Kara/Lee (Starbuck/Apollo) because season two turned Kara into a character I didn't like anymore.
Overall, I can blame a lot of this on the writers. But the handlers of the show know what's gonna be on air, so really, with the characters, I can't blame the writers at the same time. 'Cause are you really going to tell me that someone like RTD or whoever doesn't view the episodes before they air? I pretty much know for a fact that he does.
Could this be why, at the end of "Doomsday", I was relieved? Even though I did cry, not so much for Doctor/Rose, but because I really will miss Rose from once upon a time.
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You know it's been bothering me for a while now that I could ship Nine/Rose and not Ten/Rose, I almost considered myself a hypocrite, which I'm not because it's perfectly reasonable to ship one and not the other.
I always thought it was only because Rose was too clingy and they acted like immature teenagers. But it's more.
I didn't really like Rose in season two, and I really don't want to hear more of that "I loved her even more for her flaws in season two" because to me it's crap. Just because I loved the character in season one, doesn't mean I'm gonna cut her slack in season two. It's how I've always been with my characters. She just wasn't as good anymore. She never questioned Ten, she was jealous over the littlest of things and treated others (like Mickey) like they weren't a part of her "clique" with Ten.
That bothered me on a more personal level because I had a friend that would do that. If her boyfriend was around, her friends would be forgotten, if her boyfriend was ignoring me (which happened often as we never got along), she would too. So, maybe that's why I didn't really appreciate Rose in season two. More-so, it comes down to the fact of what RTD was saying, that the Doctor "Time Lorded" or whatever Rose. That wasn't a good thing! She wasn't confidant in season 2, she was foolishly smug to the point where danger didn't matter as long as she was with the Doctor.
That bothered me as well. It's one thing to risk your life for someone, like the Doctor and Rose did for each other, but to not really care about what you could be stepping into, that's not cool. One would think after traveling with the Doctor for a matter of time, you would be more wary of the danger, instead of less. And yet, she seemed to be enjoying it more and more, and that's unsettling for myself. Hmmm, this is the first time I really thought about that.
My point, though, is that I can't really ship a couple when I don't like one of the two. Especially if I don't really like either of them. Same thing with BSG. I've pretty much given up Kara/Lee (Starbuck/Apollo) because season two turned Kara into a character I didn't like anymore.
Overall, I can blame a lot of this on the writers. But the handlers of the show know what's gonna be on air, so really, with the characters, I can't blame the writers at the same time. 'Cause are you really going to tell me that someone like RTD or whoever doesn't view the episodes before they air? I pretty much know for a fact that he does.
Could this be why, at the end of "Doomsday", I was relieved? Even though I did cry, not so much for Doctor/Rose, but because I really will miss Rose from once upon a time.
I hope
who_daily picks this up, I'm up for a good discussion.
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Date: 2006-09-29 01:15 am (UTC)My favourite's still Seven, though. I've got so much childhood loyalty to him. It just goes past logic, even though there's lots I love about him that might even make sense to other people.
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Date: 2006-09-29 02:42 am (UTC)I see Nine's manic outbursts as more similar to Two's than Ten, I guess because there's this knowingness underneath. I get a sense of the wisdom underneath the manic innocence.
I took to Nine right away, and I really didn't expect to. I can't warm up to Ten - or rather, I did in the CiN special and the beginning of TCI, but then he completely and totally lost me. There have been flickers here and there (I can recite the lines!), but then he goes into overdrive and I just lose it with him again. I don't find him charming, and I'm guessing that's supposed to be his selling point. OTOH, I quite liked Six in the couple of stories I've seen. I still haven't seen One or Seven, but from what I hear about them, I think I'll like them. I've been an off-and-on watcher, but never enthralled by Four or Five, which was what I mostly got to see here in the US. More into Blake's Seven and Star Trek in that formative period!
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Date: 2006-09-29 12:22 pm (UTC)